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I was in Greece visiting my family recently... and after everyone went to sleep, I couldn't. I knew there was a beauty outside that I rarely have a chance to see. And a deep, primal hunger drove my need to be outside to breathe in.

It was pitch dark. I couldn't see anything but the stars and maybe the driveway lights. But my camera can see so much more.

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That's the milky way coming just about almost out of that chimney of the little house where I was staying.

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Shooting star!

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Is this a deviation? 









If this IS a deviation, then why can't I post it to one of our categories and why am I forced to post it to Journals?

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dnomyar27poke Apr 29, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
This is an amazing proof of what nature gives to us. We have to take care of it. It is just amazing. That camera of yours is incredible.
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lost-angle Jan 24, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
You asked about compilations, this is my suggestion for how I think compilations should look [link]
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coolcat007 Apr 4, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Yep, great idea. And how would it look for comics and literature? Maybe for those there could be a bookmark function and the ability to fav the whole thing, which would be possible to implement, since it's one compilation (or deviation set) of deviations.
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lost-angle Apr 8, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm thinking that the compilation would be treated as an individual deviation, as such, favouritable as a whole and not individual images within the compilation. I definately agree with the bookmark idea for comics and lit!
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coolcat007 Apr 8, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks. I think it would be better if it could be favouritable as a whole AND as individual images. That way people who like a certain picure in the compilation or page in the comic/literature can still favourite it without favouriting it all.
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lost-angle Apr 8, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
interesting idea, but that might be too much for the codebase to handle, at least in the form that I wired out, perhaps there's a way if it were created a different way.
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coolcat007 Apr 9, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
perhaps. Thanks for the llama by the way :D
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lost-angle Apr 9, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
no problem
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coolcat007 Jan 24, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Quote from my journal:
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I have a great new feature that would be loved by the people who submit literature, comics, movie episodes and photo sets:

Deviation sets
- The submitter will be able to group and order the submission set, for easy management
- There will be a next/previous button (and if someone wants it a first button) for easy navigation between the parts/chapters/episodes of the set
- Everyone will be able to favorite/watch a set. There will be an overview of the watched sets on the my.deviantart.com page, which will show all deviations in the set and shows the ones you've already seen/read greyed out.

The benefits
- It will be easier the submitter to manage the deviations
- This will give the opportunity to give a name to the set (name of the story) and also a name to the parts of the set (name of the chapter), without interference.
- It will make it easier for story/comic readers and movie watchers to bookmark the page at which they are (since read pages are greyed out).
- If someone hasn't read a story or comic or hasn't seen a movie in a long time and a new part/chapter/page is submitted, they can easily go back to the last read submittion (it is greyed out, but still clickable)
- With the previous/next buttons it doesn't matter if anymore if the submitter also submits other content to his/her gallery, which causes the previous/next button at the top to navigate to submissions that have nothing to do with the set. The new buttons only navigate between parts of the set, while the buttons at the top of the page navigate between submissions in the gallery.

Who would like these deviation sets?
It could be every member of dA, for example:
- If you write a story with multiple chapters
- If you make a comic with more than one page
- If you make films that are devided in episodes
- If you have a photo sequence that belong together
- If dA would allow you to submit music: if you have multiple songs that belong together in an album.

I already heard multiple positive reactions on this suggestion and I believe it to be easy to implement and very beneficial for the dA community!

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is this what you are looking for?
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SpyderZT Jan 4, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Yes, Undeniably and Emphatically, Yes. And while this just may be my opinion, please allow me to elaborate. ;P

A "Deviation" is, as I understand it, and expressive piece. Be that a picture, drawing, writing, now video, or other media example. Having each item separate has its advantages to the viewer, as you can cycle through the work, and only "Look" at the pieces that catch your eyes. This is a functionality that should if at all possible be preserved, as a viewer being forced to navigate work that they have no interest in will eventually stop looking, which seems counter to dA's goals.

That said, being limited to a strict format when submitting one's expressive piece will also force the creator to limit their expression, which isn't desirable either. The platform as it exists currently isn't too restrictive, but with the constant evolution of media there is definitely an opportunity for a more dynamic form of expression.

What you’ve submitted, a combination of text and word, or perhaps a series of images arranged in an intentional manner, is definitely a creative piece. This however raises the aforementioned questions about how to offer it in a way that melds with the current dA presentation.

The current implementation definitely works. But there are a few “Hiccups”, for lack of a better definition. Currently if you attempt to submit piece with a Sta.sh or Favorite image attached (I get it, and agree with it on “Favorites”), it will only allow you to post to your Journal. Ideally, you should be able to submit pieces with Sta.sh images to any of the available categories, and the Sta.sh Images could be copied to the “Scrapbook” folder. Thus keeping Sta.sh out of the general submission environment (Which seems to be the goal). An alert on the Submission Screen indicating this would of course need to be included so that users would be aware that this was happening. (As the images are being submitted with the piece, it’s not a “Privacy” or “Control” issue, as much as an understanding of the mechanics.) On that note, the “Scrapbook” should be a selectable source for images when composing in the Writer.

Another idea, would be to allow submission to dA from the compose screen. Either as a pop-up when the “Add Image” button is selected under the dA tab, or by “Saving Draft”, moving to the “Submit” page, and then having a “Submit and Return to Submission” that reloads your Draft. This would streamline the submission process, while not having to involve the Sta.sh pool at all. Even here though, I think that “Scrapbook” should be a selectable source, as the type of images that one may want to include in a mixed media piece may not always stand on their own.

Anywho, these are just my thoughts. I don’t know if you’re even still looking at this post. ;P
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