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Og-preview by marioluevanosEarlier today, Wix.com announced its acquisition of DeviantArt, and I want you to know how incredibly positive this development is for our community, for the platform, and for all artists who haven’t yet become deviants!

Earlier today, Wix.com—a leading cloud-based web development platform—announced its acquisition of DeviantArt, and I want you to know how incredibly positive this development is for our community, for the platform, and for all artists who haven’t yet become deviants!

We need to talk about the elephant in the room. You know, the one that’s been sitting on us for the past couple years. Since we’re all about the art, maybe the elephant was made out of origami and it was nice and colorful, but it was huge and tough to work around. For these few years, we've lacked the resources to tackle the issues that mattered most on DeviantArt, to launch the features we really wanted to bring to the community, and to deliver the full power of online presence and branding to artists in the way only DeviantArt has succeeded in doing.

I am excited to say the elephant has left the room.

This is where art starts and where art grows. With the addition of the resources, skill, innovation, and energy of Wix, our community can and will explode even faster than it has in the past, and we will become more inspired, magnetic, and audacious than ever before.

The collective, universal understanding of what DeviantArt is and how it operates won’t be lost. We'll just be able to do it a lot more efficiently, with the resources, staff, and data-driven know-how to best serve each and every member of our community like never before. All of the DeviantArt staff will stay, plus more will join us.  Very soon, you’ll begin to see the kinds of changes we have all talked about and exciting ones you never expected.

The first time we met with Wix, months and months ago, it was just to talk about an advertising deal. I was surprised that the top management of Wix were there, and within a few minutes, they started talking about what a huge influence DeviantArt had been on them and on what they do, how deeply they love and respect our community, and how excited they were to geek about DeviantArt. It became obvious that we had found a real partner—real friends for the mission ahead.

Later this year, DeviantArt will celebrate 17 years on the Internet.

17 years of creation, kindred spirits, and inspiration brought to life by our rich community of art and artists. 17 years skating along the bleeding edge of feature innovation and all the controversy it brings. And whether you're a longtime member or you've found us via search engines or links in artist bios all across the web, there's a magnetic pull that keeps our community vibrant with life.

UPDATE: There's been some confusion around wording used in TechCrunch's reporting of the DeviantArt and Wix story.

Their article includes: "...Wix will open up DeviantArt’s repository of art and creative community to the Wix platform, giving Wix’s users access to that work to use in their own site building."

Please know that the DeviantArt Submission Policy, Terms of Service and Copyright Policy all remain the same.  Deviants continue to own their own works.  In the future, there's a possibility Wix might provide opportunities for you to license your work -- only if you want to -- to more people around the world.  And, there will be opportunities for Wix users to join DeviantArt and make the community stronger.




Earlier today, Wix.com announced its acquisition of DeviantArt, and I want you to know how incredibly positive this development is for our community, for the platform, and for all artists who haven’t yet become deviants!

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Shitstorm-LLC Featured By Owner 1 day ago  Hobbyist Artist
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rippinterr Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2017  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
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SoulfulWingedOne Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2017  Student Traditional Artist
I'm a little confused. Will this change anything here on DeviantArt? 
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koibitoryu Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2017
We don't know the full details yet.
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SoulfulWingedOne Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2017  Student Traditional Artist
Okay.
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Fox-The-Wandering Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2017  Professional General Artist
Personally speaking, I for one, will be curious in seeing what happens. I mean, since this acquisition just happened, I bet it'll take some time for the staffs Wix and DA to figure out what they want to do for DA. The future's unknown and none of us know what will happen. In the meantime, though, I personally feel the best thing to do is focus on the present by doing what I love doing--making art! :)
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p-tiger Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2017  Professional General Artist
I would still like some reassurance (more than what was stated above in the edit/update.) That our works will not be made available to wix users for free. My business manager is big time on my case to pull out, I'm trying to stick it out, but it feels like the worries like this aren't being properly addressed, and the fact that wix updated their own TOS, that the wording in that, has now changed- to the point where it seems like our copyright is safe, and on another line it States they can do with images what they want, and that the creator has no say in the matter, and cannot object..... I've been in sort of suspended animation here, trying to see if there's any more reassurance of our protection.
Right now, or, at least, when I was here a little over a week ago, it still felt like our worries were just being ignored (or, if they were addressed, it felt placating- to me anyway). This whole thing has me confused and depressed.
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ItsNotFilia Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't know where you've read that.
Expanto  oO
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p-tiger Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2017  Professional General Artist
Where I've read what? I mentioned several things, as far ad I can remember.
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ItsNotFilia Featured By Owner 6 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
The part that panicked you, of course.
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p-tiger Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Professional General Artist
I am panicked because the TOS for wix changed right after THIS announcement was made. The wording that worried me was then altered, without the editing of that change being noted. The wording that I saw, that worried me was:

(Note- This is taken out of context to highlight my worry:
"You hereby grant Wix a royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, transferable and sublicensable right, and license to use your User Content (in whole or in part) worldwide.")

In context (they then altered this wording a day or so later, but the fact that it was worded like that, at all, is a worry):

2.1 You represent and warrant that:

5. You own all rights in and to any content uploaded by you (“User Content”), including any designs, images, animations, videos, audio files, fonts, logos, illustrations, compositions, artworks, interfaces, text, literary works and any other materials (“Content”), or otherwise have (and will continue to have) the full power, title, licenses, consents and authority, in and to the User Content, as necessary to legally use, publish, transfer or license any and all rights and interests in and to such User Content;

But, then, there's this:

3.1 Your Intellectual Property

As between Wix and you, you shall own all intellectual property pertaining to your User Content, including to any designs, images, animations, videos, audio files, fonts, logos, illustrations, compositions, artworks, interfaces, text, literary works and any other materials created by you. You hereby grant Wix a royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, transferable and sublicensable right, and license to use your User Content (in whole or in part) worldwide in order to provide you with the Wix Services, and as further specified in Section ‎2.2(5) above.

With the side note of 3.1 saying:
You own all rights to your content. We may use your content in order to provide you with our services.

I realize they need to protect themselves, when hosting websites.
But, ("You hereby grant Wix a royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, transferable and sublicensable right, and license to use your User Content") sounds to me, like they can go ahead and add our works into their image morgue/repository for others to use when building their site.

Also, even though they stated in the announcement here, DA was referred to as a design community (it's an artist community) and stated that it would open DA's repository of design for users to access.
The fact that that was even suggested, at all. That wording was too specific to be a complete mistake.
That's what has me worried!

Yeah, they are the wix TOS. But they bought DA, and I want assurance that posting my works here, AND on Wix (where I am/was building my website), that I am not giving them my written (my agreeing to their terms of use/service- acting as the written permission) permission to use copyright or part of it, to resell, or otherwise give away.

I have tried calling wix, but can't get through. I was hoping, since staff hre, or admins here, might be able to answer my worries.

I'm worried about what I mentioned above, and that if it does mean what it sounds like it means, (they have since altered the wording that I have posted above, again, though, the fact that it was worse like that at all...) That they will change the DA TOS/TOU to match their own.
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shikkaba Featured By Owner 2 days ago  Hobbyist Interface Designer
It addresses this is the post:
"Please know that the DeviantArt Submission Policy, Terms of Service and Copyright Policy all remain the same.  Deviants continue to own their own works.  In the future, there's a possibility Wix might provide opportunities for you to license your work -- only if you want to -- to more people around the world.  And, there will be opportunities for Wix users to join DeviantArt and make the community stronger."
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p-tiger Featured By Owner 1 day ago  Professional General Artist
I'm not blind, I saw that and said that I saw that.   Oh, forget it. I give up. Everyone is acting like I am over reacting, no one seems to get what I am asking, no matter how I word it! Just forget I asked!
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shikkaba Featured By Owner 1 day ago  Hobbyist Interface Designer
Wix and DeviantArt are two different sites. If they change the TOS here, THEN you should panic. What Wix does on Wix does not affect DA as it isn't DA.
Just like all the Google owned sites have their own TOS. They're all owned by Google, but they have different terms. Also like Yahoo and Tumblr.

On that note, nobody is acting like you're over reacting. I merely pasted a part in the message that addresses that. The other person just asked for clarity on what what making you panic. You are allowed to worry.
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kevissimo Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2017  Professional Traditional Artist
As a long time deviant, I will be cautiously optimistic. But there has been another elephant in the room that has now for years been driving other long time deviants away...and almost me included. The seemingly utter lack of moderation in many of the categories. I can't get more than a page into the images without encountering porn. It so cheapens the site that I'm now embarrassed to send anybody here. I know it's a fine line of being an arbiter of 'what is art' and people will always try to push that line, but when peoples' work is lost in a sea of dick pics and spread shots the credibility of this site goes right into the ditch. Reporting images now go unanswered and even content that is actually illegal. There are even long standing accounts that are entirely downloaded images. 

If you want this site to thrive again and have more people signing up, please deal with this issue, raise the standards, announce it, and moderate. And I'm happy to help. 
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koibitoryu Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2017
Or create a separate section for this kind of content.
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RosyUniverse Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2017  Student Digital Artist
i do hope it can bring DA more exposure bc i feel as of lately in the past few years more and more members keep leaving or forgetting about their account and moving to instagram, and i notice im getting less and less feedback on my art
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GayDorito-SheruMizu Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2017  Hobbyist Artist
I have always seen it as the cycle off the net, meaning people move on or become less interested in one site.
Or in any case a site will be die down for a little and if lucky become popular again. 

It was not the case for Bebo,MSN live and even Skype has become pretty crap and same for YouTube.


I barely get any feedback but it never bothers me as i tend to post my art else where .
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Alog3n Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2017  Professional Interface Designer
Congrats best wishes for the future to come!
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ProgressingArtistry Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm so looking forward to this. I love this platform a lot but it's lacking something. Like exposure. Hope it becomes the Artist's version of Facebook or YouTube. Where you can chat with your watchers and stuffs like that. Cause sending notes are strenuous.
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zwerg8 Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Actually, if I wanted to be on a Facebook-like site, I'd go to Facebook itself. Same with YouTube.
Though I agree that the chat function (here it's called "shoutbox") shouldn't be limited to Core members only.
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koibitoryu Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2017
That and other vital features meant to protect one's work. Though it would be nice, and hopefully they do this once things are laid out, if there was more info on how submission will be handled. For some its not a big deal but for me, someone who has been working on sites that claim changes are for the best but turns out it wasn't as many were left high and dry, I would really love to know if the submission process method will remain the same.

Probably sound pessimistic but I've encountered several too companies that like to drop anvils on people at last minute and then be extremely vague about details. Will have to wait (patiently) and see.
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HearseGurl Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2017
Found this site at the end of 2001 but didn't become a member til 2004, so I have pretty much seen it all and all I have to say is, we'll see what happens...
I pretty much read all the comments and there are very valid points and concerns here that I hope are in the "least" read by staff. So Hope For The Best, But Expect The Worst.
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Heidi Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2017
Hi, HearseGurl.

I assure you that all comments are read by staff.  ;)

And you're right, we'll see what happens... We realize that until our words change into actions, some people will remain skeptical.  That's totally understandable.  I hope you'll stick with us as we move ahead in this new phase of the DeviantArt journey.  Exciting times ahead.

~Heidi
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mitsubishiman Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2017
I wish DA the best of luck, like many veterans my time here has dwindled from a time that once was.... 
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HearseGurl Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2017
Thank You Heidi and it's nice to hear from you, the last time we spoke was like 2006, I think. Haha, time flies.

Yeah, just trying to keep it as neutral as I can and see. I have not come all this way for nothing. Wish the best and just sitting back here. :D
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SWN-001 Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2017
First.
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JNGarrettArt Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2017  Professional General Artist
On a positive note, I do want to throw out there that I am definitely liking the recent changes to the "Newest Deviations" widget - even as a free member, it allows more of my work to be seen than before depending on the width of the browser window instead of limiting it to just the four most recent pieces. I also like that there's no longer a "how many comments" label under the images in that widget, and the hover-over with the mouse for the artist and title is nice. It just looks cleaner and more professional all the way around when you first land on the artist page. 
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Heidi Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2017
Hi, JNGarrettArt.

Thank you for the feedback!  Glad to hear you're enjoying the update.  :star:

~Heidi
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JNGarrettArt Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2017  Professional General Artist
You bet! I'm sure it's tough to make changes, so I figured it's probably nice to know when there's a good reaction to an update. 
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BellicoseBreakfast Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Does this mean you'll finally have the resources to fix the 64k limit on text submissions?
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longestdistance Featured By Owner Edited Mar 5, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
So this means that DA will increase its amount of staff. Will this mean anything is done about the rampant miscategorization problem on deviantart? It seems the whole reason DA changed the old popularity algorithm in 2012 was so we didn't see the same 5 popular artists on the front page all the time and that lesser known, more niche artists had a fairer chance of getting exposure. The problem with this is that it allows popular artists to submit under lesser-used categories so they can still be on the front page. So really, nothing's changed except now you can cheat your way to the front page.

 Will anything be done to penalize artists who do this? Reporting does nothing, and nobody seems to notice or care. It defeats the point of fair exposure in my opinion. I feel it's a slap in the face to artists who work hard without cheating at categories. Deviantart is competitive and I don't think we should be rewarding people who take unfair advantage of the system.
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Andr345R Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2017  Hobbyist Photographer
hm, no more communication with the oh so valuable community after the acquisition?
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Heidi Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2017
Hi, Andr345R.

It's still too early for us to comment on roadmap specifics; however, they are being worked on and ironed out as we speak.  Literally, as I type this, members of the DeviantArt and Wix teams are working together on what's to come.  As that happens, you can expect increased communication from staff. 

We fully recognize that DeviantArt wouldn't (and couldn't) exist without the deviants that build up their respective communities and we will be keeping everyone up-to-date as things move ahead.

Thanks.  :)

CC: nopinky 

~Heidi
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GayDorito-SheruMizu Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2017  Hobbyist Artist
There was a update not long ago but i do not see any reasons behind it ? the gallery on any front page looks half cluttered. 
And non cores yet again are limited allot.

Limiting people more and more won't help much in the long run, this site has been great for what is it and i hate to be nit picking at the smallest things.
Not everyone can afford core and by limiting users more and more puts them off and most likely hence why most have left or come here less.
sure new people join everyday but this is not really all cake and rainbows.
I hope with Wix at least the problems get recognized and that the real issues are fixed and updates are taken more into account .
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Andr345R Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2017  Hobbyist Photographer
Thanks for the update.
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nopinky Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
What did you expect?
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AdriOfTheDead Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2017   Digital Artist
WRT Potential licencing, would artists be able to choose a mark-up and payout option like they can do with the prints service?
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GalopaWXY Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yeah well they went all crazy when Furrafinity was bought, announced that it would change everything and revamp the website, that was a while ago and not a line of code has changed. FA is also a really big art site. Let's see if dA can do better...
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GayDorito-SheruMizu Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2017  Hobbyist Artist
At least with FA they look into the real issues and their updates are more better than here and there is no limiting users nor spam adds saying ''buy core ''.
sure FA is not the best but i have seen some sites that at least listen to their user base lol
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GalopaWXY Featured By Owner 1 day ago  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Well I haven't seen the code but by the looks of it, dA is much more advanced ^^ as for the ads, I don't know, I haven't seen them for years, thanks to Adblock :D I just got rid of them as soon as they started showing up.
Also the dA userbase would be huge, how do you listen to a trizillon different voices and make everyone happy? x_x
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AlmightyAyama Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I hope one of the things they'll do here is allow us to delete comments / disable comments for our profile 😔
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GayDorito-SheruMizu Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2017  Hobbyist Artist
but why ? i do not understand why users want that option to me its like '' do not talk to me lol''
sure spam is a pain but there are simple ways to deal with this. 


Sure enough yeah it sounds like a  great idea but sure enough the affects would play out pretty quick.
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AlmightyAyama Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Why? Because not everyone wants people commenting on their page. Because, yes, not everyone actually wants to be talked to. Because some people want their page to be CLEAN of comments.

Cause clearly, little to few people listen to the artists ONLY comment on their page saying "Please do not comment on my profile" or "please reply here". Cause clearly most people don't fucking read that OR respect the one rule of the artists page. Cause CLEARLY featuring that comment doesn't fucking work and cause clearly saying that those who comment will be ignored and marked as spam DOES NOT WORK.

You know how often people such as myself have to reset our pages _x amount of times a day? It's annoying as hell cause people d o n o t r e a d. You know what that takes? Making four of your own random comments, hiding those, then remaking that comment that asks for those to not comment on their profile. JUST for someone to ignore that and comment anyway. And it's beyond a pain in the ass to do that shit mobile.

It's one thing if the person doesn't read/understand the language, but it's another to be ignorant and not fucking read whats in front of their eyes. So if none of the other widgets such as featuring or hiding comments cause it'll show (hidden by commenter) or (hidden by owner) except for when you hide your own on your own page.... why not make something actually, you know, USEFUL to people for once. If not deletion, which would be great help deviations, journals, polls and etc, but also our profiles. Then AT LEAST make it so we can disable. Cause if you can disable them on deviation journals all them, then we should be able to disable them on our profiles as well. I'm faarr from the only one who wants this, and i'm surprised we haven't gotten it yet. Iv'e been on this site for 5+ years and I'm/we're STILL waiting for this god damn thing.

So, does that answer you?
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JBaulmont Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2017   General Artist
Hi, you know you can delete the widget "Comments"on your profile! People can still send you notes.
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AlmightyAyama Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No you can't, you can only view when in edit page, and edit. And editing only allows how many comments can be shown and how you want them to appear.
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JBaulmont Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2017   General Artist
Oh? I haven't tried to remove it so...
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AlmightyAyama Featured By Owner Edited Mar 18, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's not a thing. I've looked before and I looked again once you commented. You can't remove the comments widget on anything.
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emortalcoil Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
That certainly does seem to be a popular wish.  And it would be appropriate, really, since that widget is a royal pain to navigate.
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