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Core $Staff Tradition of Crazy Parties Upheld

Journal Entry: Fri Jan 6, 2012, 4:41 PM


Our core $staff works really hard all year under unusual conditions to keep deviantART well-oiled. Unusual circumstances because we're spread out all over the planet, and don't get to hang in person enough! For many new team members this was also the first time we were meeting each other.

So when we get together for the holidays each year... the release valves open up and pent-up energy turns in to hardcore party...

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^ Pachunka & LisaLotek on the holiday party boat, floating around Marina Del Ray in style.

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^ randomduck going from our live forum conversations to dinner sporting Russian comic heroes on his shirt.

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^ o-KOUKLA-o claiming her spot.


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^ Don't mess with draweverywhere's ideas for muro.deviantart.com PRODUCT MANAGEMENT, or he'll knock you out in front of drigh and rdonaldson right here and now! 


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^ dxd clearly amused by his first hq experience.

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^ Pachunka occasionally busts some MJ in moments where it could be particularly awesome. Well done, sir. 

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^ Quack. 


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^ raincoastchris & rdonaldson could either be in the film Snatch in this photo, or they're just inventing new algorithms and insanely awesome topic browsing for deviantART's next version along with mccann. EIther/or. 

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^ Beat this photo of codenamepanther. That's right, she's gonna love that I posted this. 

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^ dt rolls like the Usual Suspects crew.


I didn't take nearly enough photos because I was so focused on the team, but there are more below for you to enjoy! 


On the Wednesday of our holiday park week, we had a night where VPs and Managers presented their departments' work for the year. It was a jaw-dropping experience for all. Not only the quality and quantity of effort by each group, but the inspiring combined effect of what was actually accomplished in 2011.

In 2012 we want even greater transparency from our team for the community. So much happens in a week that this is an intense task in itself.. so I'm happy to report that in 2011, nearly 40 new people joined the team and are quickly coming up to speed to help deviantART achieve even more for you. More about that soon... but you can rest assured that clean and crisp communication to the community is a continued top priority for us this year.

More photos.
  • ^ This cow! 


    ^ This COW.  Really wanted my attention.

    Is that a... .... ...

    ^ Of course I made a super llama out of clay for our art class held by jorobins. What did you expect?

    Cheers to 2012, everyone!!! 

    -- A

    :spyed:


    p.s. for my next post, which topic would you like to hear about? #1, #2, or #3.

    #1. Bentley's Adventure with his Monkey



    #2. Who is Dylan? 
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    Or,

    #3. What's it like being back at hq after the Holidays? 


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i really need to change my signature.
it's been simmering in lame for way too long.

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:iconprincesskooh:
PrincessKooh Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
lol $codenamepanther Looks like she might be a bit medicated in that picture :pointandlaugh:

Jk

Love you ALL dA Sraff :dalove: :icondragonhug:
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litecrush Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Sounds like an awesome party. :D

I choose "#3. What's it like being back at #hq after the Holidays?" c"
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Intergrativeone Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2012  Professional General Artist
I think Bentley should be showcased as the official DA staff party dawg!!!!!
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mario0om Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2012  Student General Artist
i choose 3
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kookiekween99 Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Who is Dylan?
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:iconladyofgaerdon:
LadyofGaerdon Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2012  Professional Writer
Dude. Have fun and party. You and the rest of the staff. So some of the new features may not be perfect and people might have some issues with them. That will never change. Point is, you guys worked hard on them and are continually coming up with ways to improve the site. So chill out and enjoy yourselves. You deserve it.
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GoodGirl-BadGirl Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2012
Looks like you guys had a lot of fun. Jealous :XD: lol
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sTiViA Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2012  Hobbyist
#1 and #3 ;p
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:iconsir-catherine:
Sir-Catherine Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Hehe, glad you all had fun. Everyone needs a good time with friends after holiday stress.
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TiaVon Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Bentley's Adventure with his Monkey for sure! :iconanimefaceplz:
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sengawolf Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
BENTLEY AND HIS MONKEY. MUST HEAR AOUT THIS. I BEG YOU.
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Etsuko-Hime Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
haha :) looks like you had a lot of fun^^
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manuel120292 Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2012
#3
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:iconelectricjonny:
electricjonny Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
What topic do I want to hear about?

I want information. I want updates on what the site is doing and changing. I want updates, posted from HQ, and not hidden where I can't find them. I want to be kept informed. HQ, right now, is just spamming me with shitty journals, which I don't really care to read. I want HQ to act in a way I thought it was designed to work: To inform us of site-wide changes and updates. Not journals telling me to describe my fucking animal spirit.




Sorry if I'm a bit upset here. I watch HQ to be kept in the loop about site-wide changes. And site-wide changes are not being posted from that group. This rejournaling feature, or whatever it is? Fucking post something on HQ and tell us about it. Don't slip these shared journals into our message centres without any preface or warning.
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spyed Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
yo home slice. electric home skillet. this isn't #hq! - This is my personal blog! I don't maintain another blog on the web, this is it. So I try to keep it more personal and fun on here.

I will say that #hq has a lot of different topics posted to it, with site updates, change logs and public conversations about product releases being primary. Perhaps our biggest marketing initiative for the past.. I don't know how long... is detailed product marketing which is precisely what you're asking for. This includes any and all changes to the site, feature releases and announcements, and a heads up when things change.

So when you say what you're saying, it sounds mind boggling to anyone on staff. It makes no sense and in fact sounds pretty mean spirited.... the network posts you're making fun of there are extremely successful and loved by the community overall. Sorry you aren't in to them. We hope to add categories to group and profile journals perhaps with the ability to +watch whatever aspects you want if not the whole feed.

Meanwhile, explain something for a moment. You post to staff members so often, on our personal and #hq journals.. privately, publicly.. just all the time. So surely you're in tune with what we're doing, right? And then you're reporting that we don't keep you informed of updates... literally mind boggling.

Here's my best analogy for how this sounds and feels to me and you can say what you wish in response... Let's say you're married and your wife encourages you to go to the gym. So you go to the gym every single day of your life and bust your ass while you're there. You're seeing your muscles cut up, you're losing double digit pounds, people at the gym and around you are saying they wish they worked as hard as you. And then you go to a party, and your wife's brother genuinely looks at you and says... man you gotta work out more. You're married to my wife, your health must be shit.. it just pisses me off that my wife is with a dude who isn't taking care of himself.

That's you! You're the wife's brother in that story.

Meanwhile internally there's about 8 people and full time all we do is discuss, prepare and publish product marketing materials. Of which there are many in the pipeline. The group is even revamping internal protocols and procedures for dT to the point where dT is having conversations with us about how much we could slow them down if they actually deliver all of what we're requesting to know about any changes and changelogs across the entire network no matter how big or small. And we're having auditing conversations about security concerns for what we're trying to release to the public. Really healthy stuff! Some of it already under way, some of it coming soon.

So I hope this helps you gain an insider perspective. We're on the same page here, but you've gotta appreciate how staff views this.. it really sucks to bust your ass only to be told you aren't doing anything.

Meanwhile, I am amazed you even saw reblogging. It was developed in about 24 hours by a developer to propose the idea. It was released to staff only and was supposed to only display for staff, completely invisible to all deviants. I guess a mistake was made and some people saw it? Regardless I hate the idea, we aren't a reblogging platform and so the whole feature was deleted. It won't be returning.

We debated a full #hq update about it -- but it was seen by such a small handful of people that most wouldn't even have known what we were talking about.

-- A


p.s. posts just like this one except better edited, covering more topics are being drafted to kick off the year. Just give us a minute, it's January 7th ffs!
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:iconstivia:
sTiViA Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2012  Hobbyist
*You're married to my sister,
*That my sister is with a dude who isn't taking care of himself.





:paranoid:
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:iconspyed:
spyed Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
err. errrrrr.

OH YOU GET THE POINT. haha
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:iconstivia:
sTiViA Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2012  Hobbyist
:D
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CubicInsanity Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
:lmao: Niiiiiice. I thought that analogy sounded off. :happycry:
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:iconstivia:
sTiViA Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2012  Hobbyist
:giggle:
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Evlydia Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2012  Student General Artist
I don't understand why people say that dA doesn't keep them informed on things. :no: Word travels fast if you watch the right people, and the really important stuff gets posted as a hot topic for those that don't watch the hq, staff, or any one else with ties to the dA community. If people really wanted to know what's going on they would take the time to pay attention to these people. My biggest complaint used to be that dA didn't support the literature community very well, but now I dA is taking the first steps to showing them support through the Odessay project.
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divine--apathia Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
But a lot of people don't, and so the people in the complaints and suggestions forums have to deal with a shitload of complaints that are all I HATE THIS NEW FEATURE. NO ONE EVER TOLD ME ABOUT IT. YOU BETTER CHANGE IT BACK THIS INSTANCE OR ELSE I AM GOING TO LEAVE. HOW DARE YOU DA.

it's so annoying!
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:iconevlydia:
Evlydia Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2012  Student General Artist
I don't go to those forums very often, but I can see why that would be annoying. :shrug:
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:icondivine--apathia:
divine--apathia Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
If they used HQ for actual updates, not only would it cause less annoyance to forumers, it would also make the mod's job easier.
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CubicInsanity Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I agree with this 100%. I agree with it so hard, man.
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:icondivine--apathia:
divine--apathia Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
:la:
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:iconevlydia:
Evlydia Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2012  Student General Artist
:nod: Very true. They probably should use it more.
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:icondivine--apathia:
divine--apathia Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
It would be that hard to do either :shrug: oh well.
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:iconelectricjonny:
electricjonny Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Thanks for the reply. I guess I saw this journal as a public voice from the person who runs this place and took the opportunity voice some concerns I have. Maybe this wasn't the place to do that. So I apologize for that.

As for HQ and what they post? I guess I just thought it was for something else. The art-related topics that get posted there are great posts, but I feel it's something that doesn't belong on that group. It's more of a #communityrelations type topic, I think.

This site is huge and changing fast. I thought HQ would be the place to let me know of any changes - big or small - that the site makes.
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LadyBrookeCelebwen Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Just saw this, and wanted to weigh in, hopefully you don't mind - I would say more then a few people, I know that it was this journal that I saw twice in my message center, once by you as the writer, and once by another member of the staff that I follow (sorry, I'd give more details, but I can't remember which :blush:). I think it might be everybody who also happened to be following that member of the staff...

Anyways, in and of itself, I don't think the share/reblogging idea is bad, I just disliked the fact that the first journal I saw two of was literally the shared journal right on top of the original in my message center, and that it was something that while amusing, really had no wider impact on the community at large. As I said in a comment to somebody else earlier, I'm not opposed to staff having an ability like this, I just really wish that it would only be reserved for things like :icontoxicalice92: 's project to collect points to buy hoodies so that people don't freeze to death next winter. If it was something like that, I'm all for the staff being able to share something like that, I just don't want it to become a case of every journal featuring somebody's picture/friend/friend's friend/etc. being shared, if that makes sense.

All in all though, while I might gripe at times, I do appreciate the members of the staff that do take the time to explain stuff like you have here, and many of the others. I do think that if there was more transparency, the community might settle down more - honestly, I've seen online communities implode on themselves because none of the members had any idea what was going on, I don't want that to happen here. You've said your all working on that this year, I'm going to hold onto hope that it works out.
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dazza1008 Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2012
I sometimes wonder if staff have a skewed view of the community, a bit like the police do - having contact with disgruntled deviants all the time (and I'm not talking about those who care about the site - I'm talking about those who spew blind hatred and are going to hate you regardless of what you do). If it makes you feel any better, most people I know here are content with deviantART and have little to no contact with administration. Not to say you guys should rest on your laurels, but my perception is that you do have a lot of silent support and respect out there.

My :twocents: about reblogging - I like it because like rydi1689 says, a lot of people rewrite it. And that charity devwear thingy wouldn't have come to my attention without it.
What I don't like is multiple instances of the same journal reblogged by many people in my message centre - if you can get past that, it's got my vote!

Anyway, I'm sure you've got more important things on your list. :D
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rydi1689 Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
In order for it not to appear twice or thrice in your inbox they should make it like they do with group submissions!
If someone submits their art to group #A and five minutes later to group #B and I happen to watch both groups, I don't receive the same submission for duplicate, I see it again but only shown in the latest group it was submitted to. Meaning, if I look at all my deviations from people and groups I watch, I wouldn't find more than one copy of the same deviation, because a new submission to a group of the same deviation just overlaps the previous group's submission.

They could overlap reblogged journals too. Or write something like "Journal title" by *deviantforlife (shared by =llamasforlife and 8 deviants more).

It's a feature full of possibilities :crying:.
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dazza1008 Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2012
Ooh, they actually changed that for group submissions? I hadn't noticed. :o It's good they've done it.

Does it still not appear in your inbox if you've deleted the first version prior to their submitting to another group? i.e. does it remember your history of whether it's ever been in your inbox, or does it just scan your inbox for what's there?

As long as everyone doesn't share `DoItForTheLulz' journal just to have their name mentioned. :D

I'm sure they can make it workable :)
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rydi1689 Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's been like that for as long as I can remember...? :confused: If you've deleted the first version and then it's submitted to another group that you watch, the deviation will pop up again, yes. But out of the 5 or 6 latest deviations that you see on your message center it will never appear twice and on your whole devwatch deviations it will only appear once too in the latest group it was submitted to. If you didn't remove it, it just overlaps the last group it was submitted to, so that you only get one copy of the same deviation. Or that's how it seems to work to me.

I agree :XD: We would need to educate the community on how to use it so that the abuse of the system will be reduced as much as possible. It would be an useless feature if any journal were to be mindlessly reblogged.
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dazza1008 Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2012
Oh, I remember at the very beginning there were so many duplicates - I guess I just unwatched a lot of clubs so don't notice it.

Thanks for clarifying :)

Good thing is that dA listens to feedback and adjusts.
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neurotype Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I saw a shared journal too, can't remember which one but there it was. If there's any chance of a feature like that leaking out.... :O
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rydi1689 Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You guys discarded the reblog idea??? Why?? Oh my God! It would have REVOLUTIONED deviantART! Do you know how easy it would have been to promote events and interesting journals/deviants in need/contests etc with that? :noes: If we can share things OUTSIDE of deviantART, why refuse to allow us to share things EASILY WITHIN deviantART? I'm sorry but it just makes no sense to me :noes:.

Please, bring it back! We all saw it and we would definitely welcome it! I was so excited that it was going to be implemented! :crying:
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spyed Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
It's a good concept that we could revisit in a future where deviantART's messaging systems are partly converted to feeds. As it stands, message centers can easily get too crowded permitting far too much messaging and creating a stressful experience. Having fun on deviantART after all should have little to do with clicking "X" buttons all day long!

Instead, some content should be fed. While other content should still be in the inbox style we have today.

"Re-Journaling" as a concept requires feeds. If we introduced this concept in to our current message architecture people would be effing pissed and rightfully so.

We definitely want to do something like this - just in another way all together. Btw, the concept is even more interesting when applied to faves! Faving should go in to feeds so you can browse what your friends think is awesome ...

We're getting there... lots of tech being released in 2012 that we're very excited about!
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Evlydia Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2012  Student General Artist
In general, I like the idea of seeing what our watchers fav as long as we have the ability to turn it on and off as a seperate function, like how we can with journals or forum posts. :thumbsup:
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prosaix Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2012
You can do that already with the channels page. It's just that most people don't even know it exists. :B [link]
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Evlydia Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2012  Student General Artist
Thank you prosaix. :)
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prosaix Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2012
I hope you figure out how to use it :lol:
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rydi1689 Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I wouldn't really want to be noticed about what my friends favourite (if that's what you meant) I already browse people's faves on my own so I don't particularly need any feed in that aspect.

However, the reblogging concept is one that IF implemented carefully, would bring deviantART to a golden age.
  • message centers can easily get too crowded permitting.../// It already gets crowded because we have to write journals repromoting stuff - we have to copy paste and pray that our watchers will click the link to the source - whereas reblogging skips the step of rewriting and directly links to the source. It's more effective!

  • people would be effing pissed and rightfully so.../// Why? :confused: I've seen the comments of people who saw it and they were all excited about it! But, as I said, it needs to be implemented carefully


How to carefully implement this:
  • Implement an option to allow a journal to be reblogged or not (like the one we have to allow sharing on facebook, twitter, tumblr...etc). This option will be disabled by default so that if someone really wants their journal reblogged they'll have to specifically mark it as so. We'd avoid the frustration of people allowing any journal to be reblogged when it really isn't necessary/useful.

  • Implement an option to be noticed or not when a deviant reblogs journals, just like we can deactivate being noticed of when a deviant writes a critique on someone else's art. If you don't want to see reblogged journals, just turn it off. It could have a general disabling option (within the settings like see/not see pageviews,zoomed in/out deviations, mature content fiter etc.) and a deviant by deviant option (within the watch option), depending on whether you want to not see any rejournalling, or if you want to see only what certain deviants reblog.


The key to community acceptance is giving options and the chance to turn it off if it's not of their interest. But I believe it would be a great feature to add, a step forward to improving the community side of deviantART. Think about it, please.
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Hardrockangel Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That sounds like a great way to implement it *and* it would definitely make it easier to spread the word about certain projects or people in need of help. :nod:
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Xcetera Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2012  Professional Photographer
I understand where you're coming from, but the problem is that people will start reblogging useless blogs for no apparent reason, and that will clog up message centers. It seems weird that someone would do that, but this is the internet, and there definitely will be deviants who will reblog just about everything. =| I'm for the idea myself, I have no problems deleting if someone is reblogging something useless, and it would make promoting ideas a whole heck of alot easier.

Perhaps instead of reblogging enabled being the default, not rebloggable would be the default setting? That might take care of the problem. I can understand why people are upset about it, but I think the benefits outway the risk. But you know people and how they deal with change :no: ridiculous.

I like your suggestions, though, they seem like great ideas and if they were implemented I think the community would appreciate reblogging :nod:
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rydi1689 Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm sorry but did you really read my post...? Perhaps instead of reblogging enabled being the default, not rebloggable would be the default setting?

I said:
Implement an option to allow a journal to be reblogged or not (like the one we have to allow sharing on facebook, twitter, tumblr...etc). This option will be disabled by default so that if someone really wants their journal reblogged they'll have to specifically mark it as so. We'd avoid the frustration of people allowing any journal to be reblogged when it really isn't necessary/useful.

Reblogging options are disabled, if you want your journal to be reblogged you have to change the setting manually :nod:. And if it's a bother to see reblogs altogether you would also be able to disable seeing them too.
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Xcetera Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2012  Professional Photographer
Oh, my bad. Sorry.
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Bewinxed Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
^ amen
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spyed Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
you, too. [link]
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Mumzee Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yay!!! Wish I was there ^^ Glad u get to meet at least once a year.
Thankyou...thankyou for doing such a great job under such really unusual circumstances....u r all
greatly appreciated. :heart: :love: :heart: :love: :heart:
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